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**2bias** · 03-23-2016, 02:38 AM

Every time I get shot by a shotgun with that trait, it ALWAYS procs, no matter what.

Can this please be nerfed?

**Terran** · 03-23-2016, 02:42 AM

1 in 6 =/= always

**Helga** · 03-23-2016, 02:43 AM

Seriously...?

**2bias** · (This post was last modified: 03-23-2016, 02:51 AM by 2bias.)

(03-23-2016, 02:42 AM)Terran Wrote: 1 in 6 =/= always

Basically, considering each pellet has a chance to proc

And the shotgun shoots just about 8 bullets every time it is shot.

**Kuro** · 03-23-2016, 02:54 AM

Support, nerf Excel's shotgun

**Bathory (She/They)** · 03-23-2016, 02:59 AM

This is why shotguns should only work off of shot, not pellets. No other guns are treated specially when it comes to suffix chances but them.

**Terran** · 03-23-2016, 03:02 AM

The chance also goes down at range because less pellets hit = less chance.

**Dreadark** · (This post was last modified: 03-23-2016, 03:03 AM by Dreadark.)

I've actually found this too. Whenever I get shot by nuggie's shotgun i almost always get proced. And it's super irritating.

Brassx · (This post was last modified: 03-23-2016, 03:07 AM by Brassx.)

I've already explained that proc chances are multiplied by the amount of pellets shot to help balance, and explained that I have no way to determine if a pellet came from the same shot as another pellet. There's not a 'shot identifier' on bullet/damage info structures to determine these things. Not even a time stamp.

**2bias** · (This post was last modified: 03-23-2016, 03:07 AM by 2bias.)

(03-23-2016, 03:02 AM)Terran Wrote: The chance also goes down at range because less pellets hit = less chance.

Well you shouldn't be sniping with a shotgun...

(03-23-2016, 03:05 AM)Brassx Wrote: I've already explained that proc chances are multiplied by the amount of pellets shot to help balance, and explained that I have no way to determine if a pellet came from the same shot as another pellet. There's not 'shot identifier' on bullet/damage info structures to determine these things. Not even a time stamp.

Is there a way to just make it so shotguns automatically have above 15 chance or something?

(03-23-2016, 03:02 AM)Dreadark Wrote: I've actually found this too. Whenever I get shot by nuggie's shotgun i almost always get proced. And it's super irritating.

Yeah, he proced it on my 3 timea in a row. I couldn't even look up for enough time to shoot him back