(11-10-2018, 03:11 AM)snoz Wrote:Once again you're not listening. I said that it STARTED OUT as a harmless joke. Obviously it got derailed into a full blown scam which is sad, and I've already apologized in my initial post for things turning out as they have. And of course I'm trying to defend myself because you make it sound like I was part of some dubious scheme to scam this low level of his brand new shiny item when in reality all I did was make a fake offer of 15k which then got tangled up in a hasty deal between Excel and Zebrah. Obviously I understand your point of view that I come of as an obvious scammer but I really had no intention of anyone getting scammed.(11-10-2018, 03:05 AM)No Dick Nytemart Wrote:(11-10-2018, 02:59 AM)snoz Wrote:(11-10-2018, 02:49 AM)No Dick Nytemart Wrote: "What you should've done is consulted a person outside of the circle of people that wanted to buy the rune about the pricing itself since you're bound to get very biased pricing from the buyers themselves."
How to try and justify yourself as a scammer/associate to scamming 101
It's true though? If you ask the buyer of an item about it's pricing obviously he is going to be very biased about it.
And as I stated it all started out as a harmless joke. We all just started bidding lowball offers for fun until he randomly took Excels deal without much thought put into it.
But you seem to have it out for me so I doubt you'd even attempt to understand what I'm trying to get at.
The only reason now that you're calling it a fucking Joke is because you got called out. Pretty fucking obvious. Otherwise Zebrah was going to just QUIT and NOT SAY ANYTHING. You're still trying to defend yourself which is sad, because you've already put out enough evidence that you guys fucked him over.
(11-10-2018, 03:17 AM)Brassx Wrote: Your logic goes out the window when three people seemingly actively 'bid' or tell him its worth 15k. Why would he have any reason to doubt people with a lot of play time/member?
How is he supposed to know you guys are buddy-buddy and joking..? For all he knows you guys aren't friends and are legit bidding for the rune.
But It doesn't matter if you're joking or not. Your intentions do not matter at all here, as it gave him the impression that the prices were accurate, and 20k was a good deal. Thus he got sharked.
Excel took advantage of your 'jokes' and offered 20k, in which he accepted. A good member of the community would've told him they were joking and it's worth more than that.
The victims experiences on other servers has absolutely nothing to do with this here. He gave our MEMBERS the benefit of the doubt and got burned for it. If he accepted 20k without any of you guys saying a word about prices, then sure, it's mostly on him. But this is on YOU guys for tricking him (whether intentional or not). Like come on, how the fuck is he supposed to know saying it's worth 15k or bidding 12k for it is a MEME...? He has no context to know that.. Like come on.. Very disappointed. This is not something to shrug off, and seeing how much your group is defending each other shows an even bigger underlying issue of the inner-groups within the community that have become extremely anti-community.
Instead of taking responsibility that your 'jokes' got someone ripped off, you're trying to pass blame onto the victim..
You are right Brass. I am personally sorry that this whole ordeal derailed this badly.
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