(09-21-2018, 07:17 PM)gardenGnostic Wrote: "Personally, I can see why this type of crystal is actually sort of needed to tone down some of the OP weapons we definitely have, but at what cost? It also hurts any of the 'more balanced' weapons we have. Thus why I can fully understand both arguments." - Brass 2018
Lets make a godlike that can be the counter to lower level players and lower level raritys and use it to tone down more op weapons effectivly allowing innocents to be at body armor tier health (not like the numbers they have over the T isnt enough). Now lets also make a godlike that allows this godlike to be fused with another crystal say a djinn crystal allowing them to take an extra shot (or more), deal more damage, and heal when the extra damage is done. However, a vitality crystal alone is not that bad until you take in to accout that there are guns that are ment for you to run up and gun someone down but deal a lower damage. These guns are nullified and the crystals give someone extra time to get out of something normally lethal even with body armor alone. The problem is they counter styles of gameplay forcing someone to have to take into account that one person ruining their setup. It can do this without a SINGLE downside but the fact it has a charge (and you can get runes or cheap items to fix that). So now instead of just having to deal with detectives that can tank some extra damage now you have mini detectives running around to also mess your time up so why not just add a class crystal and make it full blown detectives?
I suggest you go back and re-read my post, since about 99% of what I wrote seemed to have eluded you. I completely explained the other points above it, which is more or less what you said about detectives, but in a much more legible, sensible, and non-sarcastic manner.
One side is arguing the crystals are fine, along with that argument that they seem to help fights become more 'fair' against our many super fast quick-kill-time items(which again I said I can personally understand why they'd say that, but like I also said, it doesn't ONLY COUNTER those, it counters everything), other side is arguing the few extra shots needed to kill is too much for them. There's not single crystal that has a downside, and I don't really see the need to have any now. It just wouldn't really make much sense to start now. The better way to "nerf" it is a re-balance.