Votekick/voteban are pretty trash to use, if a few people are causing problems without staff they just need 3 people to vote no to continue to troll. If there's any AFKs it counts their votes anyway and there's been so many times a majority vote just doesn't go through.
Even when staff aren't on in my experience we can always get one person on to deal with it, and in my experience as a staff member handling those problems the community are relatively quick to try to get someone on to deal with it.
I don't agree with letting member+ getting access to those commands, and if there's any +members that think they should have it I would urge you to apply for moderator instead and make yourself useful in that sense
I think we would be much better off fixing the voting system or making a new system because currently it just does not work.
Even when staff aren't on in my experience we can always get one person on to deal with it, and in my experience as a staff member handling those problems the community are relatively quick to try to get someone on to deal with it.
I don't agree with letting member+ getting access to those commands, and if there's any +members that think they should have it I would urge you to apply for moderator instead and make yourself useful in that sense
I think we would be much better off fixing the voting system or making a new system because currently it just does not work.