Super Awesome Detective Rebalance Thread

[Kuro]

So after the success of my knife suggestion I've decided to run down through each item which I think needs a change/rebalance.
I'm doing detective here first because it really sucks at the moment, and the list of things to change is super short because Detectives have like half of a list

I also stole Chosen's thread design so sue me, it looks good.


Detective Changes

Health Stations and Camera Mounts

Every every single detective item that can be broken (such as the camera or health station) should be immune to being broken via bullet/melee and instead should only be destroyed via explosive and fire.(c4/remote bomb/orbital)
-There was a change to Space Station that placed a wall around the generator making it immune to melee/bullets. Not sure if it's possible or practical to do with detective items but it was a thought.

Health Stations should have a slight nerf from amount of health they can heal from 200 to 150.
-The change above would make them harder to destroy so this would be a counterbalance.

Make it so Camera mounts can see cloaked people better
-Maybe color them a bit or just add a little splotch to see them better?

Visualizers

Make Visualizers not able to be picked up via Magneto Stick.
-You can't do anything if someone were to pick it up and chuck it away.

Allow Visualizers to show the original position of a body that died to an explosion.
-Not sure if this one is possible but it could be useful.

Canary

Make it crazy super accurate.
-Like AWP levels of accurate, this suggestion is a bit hit or miss but I don't see a problem here.

When buying it have it come with reserve ammo.
-It should come with 12 rounds reserve when you buy one if it doesn't already

Add 15% mobility to the Canary?
-This one is kind of a nit-pick but mobility in this server is a must have on secondaries; to the point of necessity.

Traitor Tester gun

Lower the time needed to charge it to 90 seconds
-It really takes too long, I don't care if Jake rages.

Binoculars

Credits to NotChosen
Have binoculars tell you which bodies have dna when you look at them
-A strong use for binoculars, would make them viable.

Make binoculars autocollect dna from bodies you identify with them
-It would stop bodies being hid by being carelessly tossed away.

Other

This spot is reserved to other just other minor random ideas. I might expand on these ideas later, I don't know.

Add additional titles other than TRAITOR/Sherlock (ones past that possibly).
-It relates to both but the achievement kept me sane while going for the Sherlock title.

Please post on this thread if there is any other Detective items you want to see changed and/or potential changes you want included.

[Chosen]

I'm suing, but all together I do think the Detectives should get a buff since when I'm a detective I immediately buy a health station, radar or grapple hook since those are the Only 3 worth using anymore (Thanks Jake).

[Terran]

Good ideas, but "Make crystal effects not work on Detectives"
NO.
NO!

Detectives are always targeted.

[Kuro]

(06-27-2016, 08:21 PM)Terran Wrote:  Good ideas, but "Make crystal effects not work on Detectives"
NO.
NO!

Detectives are always targeted.

You have to consider that Detectives are super beefy proven people surrounded by other innocents, with the power to heal themselves on command.

Detectives are targeted but they have some snazzy armor that reduces damage already, and the blaze crystals do a lot to reduce explosions.

These combined make it really difficult if not impossible to kill camping detectives with a majority of traitor weapons if not just straight up losing a gunfight.

If anything just the Blaze Crystals.

[Unpoke]

I disagree with both crystals not effecting detectives, since they are a high priority to kill and are not that hard to kill, and the binoculars collecting DNA cus thats part of the strat of dropping bodies off the sides of buildings.

[ghasT_T]

The only good idea for a visualizer to make it useful is to have it display names on the ghosts.

[Kuro]

Alright I've removed the crystal suggestion based off of feedback.

Thank you everyone for your input!

[Kuro]

Bumping

[Kili Bun]

Yeah, I think dets could definitely use a buff, they do seem a bit on the useless side other then throwing out a health station or using dna, would really love to see something like maybe a pistol-like turret on their camera, just something they can throw out to make try and keep someone away or delay them so they can heal up or something.

[Kuro]

(06-30-2016, 02:57 AM)Kili Wrote:  Yeah, I think dets could definitely use a buff, they do seem a bit on the useless side other then throwing out a health station or using dna, would really love to see something like maybe a pistol-like turret on their camera, just something they can throw out to make try and keep someone away or delay them so they can heal up or something.

Detectives should get rc-cars strapped with explosives every 2 traitor kills they get