I never said that at all tobias... I stated I would rather T items remain as they were when added nothing about wanting them buffed and not nerfed. I feel the turtles effect and damage was fine as was the original bear trap and barnacle. If something can be done about people getting stuck in the turtles thats fine as it doesnt effect what they are intended for. Personally I dont get stuck in them but if its an issue for others that can be fixed that would be cool.
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