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FRG In-Game Rule Revisions (April 2021) - Mousey - 04-05-2021
What’s up epic Furrunner Gamers, Manegger Mousey here. As referenced many times in the last couple months Parade and I have been working very hard to update the rules to create a more fun environment on the servers.
These changes have been made based on feedback from players as well as staff members. It is very important to note that these changes are not set in stone and these are very much being put in place to see how it effects gameplay. We will be more than happy to change things around if we feel a majority of the player base agrees or disagrees with changes. We are trying to find a happy medium between loose enforcements of rules as we currently have and more rigid and simple to follow rules.
For any question regarding the revised rules feel free to PM Parade or myself, we aren’t perfect and did have some issues with wording and coming up with positive changes.
ALSO PLEASE NOTE THAT THESE CHANGES ARE NOT LIVE IN GAME YET. THEY WILL BE CHANGED IN GAME WHEN BRASS GETS A CHANCE TO DO SO.
SINCE SOME OF THE CHANGES ARE SMALL, STAFF MEMBERS HAVE BEEN INSTRUCTED TO BE MORE LENIENT WITH PUNISHMENTS FOR THE NEXT WEEK OR SO TO GIVE PLAYERS TIME TO ADJUST.
No Hacking/Exploiting
Any hacking on any server is not permitted Exploiting items, events, especially new content, must be reported. Abusing exploits is not allowed and is a bannable offense.
Map exploits such as exposed nodraw (invisible walls), areas that the mapmaker did not intend for players to go (out of speculation) is not allowed and you will be warned. Abusing map logic and props like door blocking are not allowed. Remember that each map has case-by-case rules.
3rd-party programs used for personal gain are not permitted.
Show Respect Towards Others
Show respect to fellow players as well as staff members.
Racism, malicious arguing, sexism, or any other sort of disrespect is never allowed. We do not allow harassment against players. If the player asks to stop, then stop. Report unwanted harassment and disrespect to a staff member.
We deal each situation case-by-case, not all cases will be dealt the same.
Do not argue with staff. Staff are chosen because they're believed to have an understanding of rules and are trusted. Each staff member has their own interpretation of the rules. Not every staff member will handle a situation the same, especially situations that fall under a gray area.
Staff members are only human and can make mistakes. If you think the staff member responsible handled a situation incorrectly, you may create a player complaint or report to a higher staff member. Consistent arguing can cause a mute by the staff member.
No Meta-Gaming
Meta-gaming is any strategy, action or method used in a game going against the game objective.
Helping an Innocent as a Traitor or helping a Traitor as an Innocent in any situation results in meta-gaming, this includes doing Traitorous map objectives as an Innocent. Purposely losing a team-based mini-game under any circumstance or helping the other team is not allowed. Going against the game objective to complete dailies or quests also counts as Meta-Gaming.
Do Not Delay
Letting the timer run out as a traitor can be considered delaying under most circumstances.
Camping a Traitor-room or refusing to attempt to kill innocents are examples of these and will get you slain. You can become at fault for running the clock and stalling the round for dead/spectating players.
No RDMing
Random Death Match is killing a player with lack of evidence or randomly killing a player.
Killing somebody based on suspicion, location, skin, weapon, or any other questionable means are not allowed on this server. You must have proof based on viable evidence.
You can use logic as long as it's built on in-game facts, not observations or drawn conclusions. This means you can KOS off of being one of only two people alive, or if only one person is not proven.
Attempting to RDM by dealing damage to a player is classified and treated as RDM. Leaving after committing an act of RDM is bannable.
Completing any sort of map objective as an Innocent that causes Traitors to win is treated as mass-RDM and meta-gaming.
As a traitor, you must warn Traitor-buddies of any quick actions that may endanger them. This includes discombobs, incendiaries, traitor traps, etc. This does NOT include items that have warning icons to other T’s such as C4's and Remote Bombs (unless you purposely placed this bomb to RDM)
Jumping into a gunfight with no evidence and selecting a player to kill is NOT permitted and will be treated as RDM.
Crossfire is not a slayable offence. A +Member or staff will decide if it's crossfire or intentional RDM.
Claiming
Claiming is no longer allowed.
Detectives Have No Authority
Detectives cannot force anybody to test or do anything unreasonable or strange.
Detectives are permitted to force you to drop a body to find DNA/evidence on.
If the Detective calls a player out as a Traitor, if that player was not a Traitor, it is considered RDM.
Making Reports
DO NOT create false reports/Use the report menu in a way unintended.
It wastes staff member’s time to create false or unhelpful reports.
CLEARLY explain what happened in the report. Death Scenes are not 100% accurate, so an explanation is needed in certain reports. Staff members are permitted to ignore reports that are unhelpful/insulting/non-sensical.
Do not argue with the staff member if the report is not handled in your favor. Show respect to whoever handled your report, and take it to a high staff member or report the issue on the forums if you believe a situation was handled incorrectly.
Do Not Kill AFKs
Killing an AFK is slayable, even if a report wasn't made.
AFKs will be put into spec mode automatically, killing AFKs simply to make a round end faster is not permitted. Traitors are allowed to kill AFKs. If the Traitor leaves a player unharmed, you may KOS off of association.
Door Spamming/Prop Blocking
Do not spam doors or prop block other players.
Doors, buttons, or anything else that can disrupt the flow of gameplay. Blocking off areas of the map, or trapping people somewhere by spamming doors, using props, or anything of the like is not allowed, and is slayable.
Logic
Destroying the T with FACTS AND LOGIC is allowed. NOTE: THESE RULES ARE STILL A WIP AND CAN BE VERY NUANCE. WE CANNOT THINK OF EVERY SINGLE SITUATION AND LIST IT HERE. RULES WILL BE ADDED AND REMOVED FROM HERE BASED ON NEW AND NICHE EVENTS WE COULDN’T THINK OF.
We allow using logic to KOS in some situations.
Ex. If a player quickly leaves a room with unidentified bodies, after sounds of gunfire was heard, you can assume that the player leaving could've been the one killing, thus giving the sense he is the Traitor.
You can use association in certain situations. Association is when a player is suspected to be helping a Traitor. The most frequent example is a player blatantly not attacking a called out Traitor.
Using items that gives different damage numbers against different roles is not kosable. KOS off radar is also not permitted.
Inventory Trading
No scamming/sharking.
Trying to persuade someone a trade is fair when it's not, trying to take advantage of newcomers, or anything else along these lines are not allowed.
If you're not sure on what a price potentially is, ask a member you trust for a general price on the item.
You are allowed to trade VIP features/items that require Rubies to players who cannot afford Rubies or the item.
Event Farming/Griefing
Farming or griefing events is not permitted.
This means going AFK to collect end of round drops or lengthen your time played on the servers. This also forbids use of click-bots or using exploits to avoid cooldowns or leeching in events.
Leeching can be defined as (but not limited to): Going AFK, dying intentionally, 'faking gameplay', etc, during TEAM BASED events, all with the intent of allowing teammates to do all the work, so you can get loot with minimal effort.
This should be a PER CASE basis, and drop bans will be the main source of punishment. Doing it often can lead to server bans, so DON'T DO IT!
Purposely sabotaging your teammates in PvE public events is considered event griefing. Punishments may lead to drop bans to server bans.
RE: FRG In-Game Rule Revisions (April 2021) - Toaster - 04-05-2021
Most of this seems good here. Especially love that facts and logic to deduce t's aren't against the rules
No KOS off of radar feels a bit restrictive and will always give T's the edge. I think if there's only one person left on the radar it should be fair game.
RE: FRG In-Game Rule Revisions (April 2021) - Jack Moloney - 04-05-2021
(04-05-2021, 08:18 PM)Prince Toaster Wrote: Most of this seems good here. Especially love that facts and logic to deduce t's aren't against the rules
No KOS off of radar feels a bit restrictive and will always give T's the edge. I think if there's only one person left on the radar it should be fair game.
No KOSing off of radar exists because Traitors have means to hide from said radar through the use of the Disguiser. Because of it, Detectives can fall into a situation where there's an Innocent and a disguised Traitor left in the match. KOSing off the radar would result in the innocent dying, which is exactly why KOSing off radar isn't allowed and is generally not viable.
RE: FRG In-Game Rule Revisions (April 2021) - Black Knight - 04-05-2021
The event griefing part is fantastic as people will say join a public grims and sit there afk for most of it doing nothing also in dilapidation the same issue occurs.
Removing claims may be an issue for some people but I can kind of see why you would do it as it's an easy out for if someone kills an inno that enters that area.
Overall I think you 2 have done a great job expanding and modifying our current ruleset good work Co-managers!
RE: FRG In-Game Rule Revisions (April 2021) - Man - 04-05-2021
(04-05-2021, 08:32 PM)Jack Moloney Wrote: No KOSing off of radar exists because Traitors have means to hide from said radar through the use of the Disguiser. Because of it, Detectives can fall into a situation where there's an Innocent and a disguised Traitor left in the match. KOSing off the radar would result in the innocent dying, which is exactly why KOSing off radar isn't allowed and is generally not viable.
I agree with this in most cases, but there are a few situations where I've been the only detective alive in a server of 16 with 12 unidentified bodies. In cases like this, you have to just accept death even though you know everyone in the server that's alive is pretty clearly a traitor, with maybe the exception of one or two players if a stray innocent survived the onslaught and you're unfortunate enough that multiple traitors are using disguisers- Which doesn't happen often, especially in quick rounds. This was something I used to use when claiming on another server years ago when I was actually good at the game, and it always worked out in my favor because innocents don't typically enter rooms that are off on the side of the map unless they have a specific reason to. You can usually deduce who a traitor is based on the fact that they're even near you.
Mostly the rule just ends up punishing people who have claimed rooms, which isn't allowed anymore, which ends up kind of working out, I guess. Just food for thought. I'm not particularly against these rules in one way or another, but especially with the new items like barricade, people will definitely be holed up in rooms anyway.
RE: FRG In-Game Rule Revisions (April 2021) - Manzy - 04-05-2021
Destroying/disarming a T buddies equipment should be against the rules
RE: FRG In-Game Rule Revisions (April 2021) - Unpoke - 04-05-2021
you should try to make this more legible
the target audience that most of these rules apply to applied with the addition of adhd generation makes this wall of text a lot to take in
RE: FRG In-Game Rule Revisions (April 2021) - Brassx - 04-06-2021
I would like to add:
Quote:Sharing accounts with intentions of grinding discoveries faster is not okay its unfair
helping each other is fine, FROM SEPARATE ACCOUNTS, via like trading items or w/e
Account sharing just to help someone out is fine if its unrelated to speed grinding discoveries.
Since everyone wants a discovery, account sharing puts 2 people at a huge advantage for things like the pass, and its not fair to have to risk your account security just to keep up.